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    Watch: Paul McCartney on the risks the next generation of musicians face

    Sir Paul McCartney has told the BBC proposed changes to copyright law could allow "rip off" technology that might make it impossible for musicians and artists to make a living.

    The government is considering an overhaul of the law that would allow AI developers to use creators' content on the internet to help develop their models, unless the rights holders opt out.

    In a rare interview for Sunday with Laura Kuenssberg, Sir Paul said "when we were kids in Liverpool, we found a job that we loved, but it also paid the bills", warning the proposals could remove the incentive for writers and artists and result in a "loss of creativity".

    The government said it aimed to deliver legal certainty through a copyright regime that provided creators with "real control" and transparency.

    Watch: Protect creative artists or you won't have them - Paul McCartney

    Sir Paul, one of the two surviving members of the Beatles, said: "You get young guys, girls, coming up, and they write a beautiful song, and they don't own it, and they don't have anything to do with it. And anyone who wants can just rip it off."

    "The truth is, the money's going somewhere… Somebody's getting paid, so why shouldn't it be the guy who sat down and wrote Yesterday?"

    He appealed to the government to think again about its plans, saying: "We're the people, you're the government! You're supposed to protect us. That's your job.

    "So you know, if you're putting through a bill, make sure you protect the creative thinkers, the creative artists, or you're not going to have them."

    Reuters Sir Paul performs during his Got Back tour in London in December 2024 - he's in a blue suit and shirt playing the guitar on stage Reuters

    Sir Paul performing for his Got Back tour in London, in December 2024

    The government is currently consulting on proposals that would allow AI companies to use material that is available online without respecting copyright if they are using it for text or data mining.

    Generative AI programmes mine, or learn, from vast amounts of data like text, images, or music online to generate new content which feels like it has been made by a human.

    The proposals would give artists or creators a so called "rights reservation" – the ability to opt out.

    But critics of the plan believe it is not possible for an individual writer or artist to notify thousands of different AI service providers that they do not want their content used in that way, or to monitor what has happened to their work across the whole internet.

    An alternative proposal for artists to opt in to give their permission for their content to be used will be put forward in the House of Lords by cross bench peer Baroness Kidron this week.

    Tom Kiehl, chief executive of music industry body UK Music, said: "Government plans to change copyright law to make it easier for AI firms to use the music of artists, composers and music companies without their permission put the music industry at a huge risk.

    "It would be a wild punt against the creative sector that is already contributing over £120bn to the economy and be counterproductive to the government's own growth ambitions.

    "There is no evidence that creatives can effectively 'opt out' of their work from being trained by AI systems and so this apparent concession does not provide any reassurance to those that work in music."

    PA Media The Beatles: Paul McCartney, George Harrison, Ringo Starr and John Lennon, at a London recording studio in 1967, in jackets and shirts of varying colours and stylesPA Media

    The Beatles: Paul McCartney, George Harrison, Ringo Starr and John Lennon, at a London recording studio in 1967

    A government spokesperson said that the UK's music industry was "truly world class" and had produced "some of the most celebrated artists in history".

    "That is why we have launched a consultation to ensure the UK copyright framework offers strong protections for artists with regards to AI," they said.

    "Our aim is to deliver legal certainty through a copyright regime that provides creators with real control, transparency, and helps them licence their content."

    The spokesperson added the government was "keen to hear the views of the music industry on these proposals" and would "only move forward once we are confident that we are delivering clarity, control and transparency for artists and the sector, alongside appropriate access to data for AI innovators".

    In 2023, Sir Paul and fellow Beatle Sir Ringo Starr used AI to extract the vocals from an unfinished demo left by John Lennon to produce a new song, Now and Then.

    The song, billed as the Beatles' final release, drew widespread praise and has been nominated for two Grammys and a Brit award.

    Sir Paul recently finished his Got Back tour, which saw the 82-year-old play in France, Spain and Brazil before ending at London's O2 Arena.

    The full interview with Paul McCartney will be on Sunday with Laura Kuenssberg on Sunday 26 January at 09:00 GMT.

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